#57 Practitioner Interview with Heather Gray

  • NES Health Practitioner Heather Gray, better known as The Lyme Boss, will be joining Helen Frank for this Advanced Training. After falling sick at age 13 and every test proving inconclusive, like many others, Heather carried on with her life in a state of existence. 27 years later, after finally getting a diagnosis of Lyme Disease, Heather went on to train as a Functional Diagnostic Nutritional Practitioner. On this call, Heather will share her journey from childhood to now and how she combines NES with her Functional Diagnostic training to support others living with the misery of unresolved Health challenges.

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Charles Segard is a master artisan of body therapy dedicated to helping you achieve your goals. He has been in professional practice since 1996 using multiple modalities to assist people in pain, restore functionality and gain freedom in their lives. 

Long before becoming a professional he started developing a keen sense of touch as a child while rubbing his dad’s sore feet after hard days of standing on concrete factory floors. Later through dance and martial arts training he further developed a strong body awareness.

Charles is a Certified NES Practitioner as well as an American Organization for Bodywork Therapies of Asia Certified Practitioner (AOBTA® CP) specializing in Pacific and Asian restoration therapy, craniosacral therapy and lymph drainage therapy. 

Charles is a good listener who enjoys hearing the details of your situation and finding the root of what is troubling you. With a large skill set and long experience he can be versatile in approaching your unique situation. 

With a foundation in Chinese Medicine and an avid interest in cutting edge science, he was immediately attracted to NES after seeing The Living Matrix Movie and started using The Living Matrix Movie in teaching his classes in the Parkland Community College Massage program as a way of reframing how students think about the body. NES integrates Chinese Medicine with western science beautifully respecting the body and person as a garden to be cultivated rather than a machine with broken parts to be fixed or replaced to use Ted Kaptchuk’s analogy from his book The Web That Has No Weaver. 

Charles looks forward to improving your life.


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